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| Maripol
- Designer,
Photographer & Producer
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French-born
designer, photographer and producer, Maripol, was
behind much of the style, art and fashions of the
80s. As Art Director for Fiorucci, Maripol was the
designer responsible for putting the cross to Madonna's
ear, the rubber bangles on her wrist and the infamous
Like a Virgin wedding dress on her back - all of
which she designed. Maripol was an integral part
of New York's 80s downtown scene, partying at the
legendary Studio 54 and Mudd Club with the likes
of Andy Warhol, Fab Five Freddy and Keith Haring
as well as with the women she styled, most notably
Debbie Harry and Grace Jones. Maripol produced several
films including Downtown 81 - a film originally
shot in the 80s, directed by Edo Bertoglio and written
by Glenn O'Brien, which starred her close friend,
the late artist Jean-Michel Basquiat. Maripol closely
documented the 80s with her series of Polaroids,
which feature many of the leading artists and musicians
of the era.
You've recently returned to
Fiorucci after 20 years and are currently consulting
on their new label for women, Love Therapy. Do you
design exclusively for women?
No, I've styled a lot of men in bands. Duran Duran
used to wear all my jewellery in the 80s. Nick Rhodes
used to come to my wild loft parties in New York
with Andy Warhol and everyone.
Sounds
like you've met some interesting people. Who was
the most inspirational?
Madonna would be one of them, for sure. She was
very inspirational. Carrying a name like Madonna
and me designing a cross for her, how perfect could
that have been?
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| "Madonna
was the Queen of Grunge, long before Kurt
Cobain." - Maripol |
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We've
seen some of your 80s Polaroids of Basquiat and
Andy Warhol. How did you get into Polaroid photography?
I came to New York in '76 with my boyfriend Edo.
We found the whole disco thing and I worked with
Fiorucci right away. We moved downtown and Edo,
who was a photographer, gave me my first Polaroid
camera. It was like a toy to me. I think when
you move to a new city, you behave like a journalist
and want to take pictures of everything. I rarely
took photographs of buildings though because it
was the people who interested me. Everyone remembers
that I was the only one taking Polaroids back
then in the clubs.
What's
the most rewarding part of your photographic work?
I think it's when the kids from this generation,
who don't know our generation, can see it. It's
the same with the film Downtown 81. We heard so
many kids say the 80s were short compared to the
70s. What people don't always realise when they
look at the 70s, is that it's actually the 60s
combined with the 70s. The 80s was the 80s and
the 90s was when the yuppies came and killed all
the soul and creativity. They made the rent sky
rocket and it's not as interesting anymore.
If the yuppies killed off
creativity, are there no fashion movements then
that you consider important from the 90s?
I like Grunge, but there was nothing new in the
grunge movement. Kurt Cobain put it on the map,
but it had already been around. Physically, it
was what we were busy doing in the 80s. Madonna
was the Queen of Grunge, long before Kurt Cobain.
Is
this lack of originality why you're less interested
in the fashion industry these days?
Yes. I think everybody is their own fashion designer
now and there's too much of it. The designers
copied a lot of the street kids. Actually, all
the big designers copy what they see themselves
and they go back to the past a lot too. So there's
nothing new in the creative market because everybody's
eating their own tail. Someone said the other
day that my pictures look very natural even if
they're from twenty years ago; they still look
relevant today because everyone's looking to the
past.
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| "When
we were at the Mudd Club, we'd go to the thrift
store and get all the 60s garb and everything.
Why would I spend all my money on Prada when
I can get my own style?"
- Maripol |
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You
were responsible for styling Madonna in the 80s
and creating some of her earlier looks. What were
your main influences for that?
Madonna was a dancer so it was important for her
to be very comfortable as well. It's not that
I styled her exactly, I mean, she dressed herself
every day. A lot of the early looks were pretty
catastrophic, if you look back at the pictures.
But that's grunge, that's what I'm saying.
Who
is the most important person working in fashion
today?
Karl Lagerfeld for Chanel, because he's really
carrying on the torch. I also love Gucci, Christian
Dior and the Italian designers, MARNI. As for
young designers, I don't think there's been anything
creative since Vivienne Westwood and Malcolm McLaren.
This
generation are heavily involved in creating their
own fashion designs and looks. Is this something
you welcome?
Well, yes. This generation have so much information
and magazines that tell them what to put together,
so some of them reject the system and dress how
they want. In a way, we're all victims of consumerism.
They're telling us what to wear next winter. What
if I don't like that next winter? It's business,
you know; it's lost its soul. When
we were at the Mudd Club, we'd go to the thrift
store and get all the 60s garb and everything.
Why would I spend all my money on Prada when I
can get my own style?
As
an artist, how do you feel about recent government
pressure to stamp out street art in the UK?
They probably got inspired by the New York law.
A lot of the local kids were pushed away from
New York and went to Europe. I consider graffiti
to be an art form, so I find it really sad. They
just want to put their mark on society, to make
sure we know they exist. Some of the calligraphy
is pure art. Graffiti is what motivated me to
go to New York, back in the 70s. I was in art
school and I picked up a book called Subway Art
and focused my whole year of study around it.
When I came to New York, I would see these trains
that had been graffitied and I became friends
with Fab Five Freddy and Lee - they were called
The Fabulous Five because of the because of the
no. 5 express train they sprayed.
What
can we expect to see from you in the future?
I want to do films really, even if I have to animate
the Polaroids and make a film with a voice over
explaining the moment. I like real life situations
as well as fiction. I believe I've always been
a documenter with a voyeur's eye, for my generation.
I'm a natural producer - I produce images, I produce
fashion, and I produce film.
Maripol’s
Polaroid collection appears in her book, MARIPOLARAMA,
published by powerHouse Books.
Photographs by Maripol |
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